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21 Sep 2024 23:22 #7
by Warren Hampton
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Never in in the 37 years of Ercouping have I heard of the H. Why would they go back to a 75 HP? Where did you find this?
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- Larry Snyder
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12 Sep 2024 15:18 - 12 Sep 2024 15:19 #8
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I just consulted the Stanley Thomas book.
415 - the 121 prewar Ercoupes
415C - the C75 powered Ercoupes
415D - similar to C, weight up to 1400
415CD - like a D but 1260 pounds and 13 degree elevator up travel
415E - C85
415F - C85 with fuel injection, never marketed
415G - luxury model - Club-Aire
415H - “El Cheapo” model, no electrics or much of anything. Only 7 built
415 - the 121 prewar Ercoupes
415C - the C75 powered Ercoupes
415D - similar to C, weight up to 1400
415CD - like a D but 1260 pounds and 13 degree elevator up travel
415E - C85
415F - C85 with fuel injection, never marketed
415G - luxury model - Club-Aire
415H - “El Cheapo” model, no electrics or much of anything. Only 7 built
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12 Sep 2024 13:13 #9
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I didn’t think the F or H models ever existed. The G model was built by Sanders Aviation at the Riverdale plant. Sanders was Berliner’s son-in-law
I think. It’s been a while since I read the book. Time to review!
The Wikipedia page has a lot of errors. I corrected some but I am not an expert on production numbers and dates. But I do own A Touch of Class so I guess I can be!
I think. It’s been a while since I read the book. Time to review!
The Wikipedia page has a lot of errors. I corrected some but I am not an expert on production numbers and dates. But I do own A Touch of Class so I guess I can be!
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12 Sep 2024 12:35 #10
by Robert Burdett
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Wikipedia is a pretty good source for various versions, what major changes were made and number produced. It does not have AD info.It does not have all the dates but does have number produced. I would guess as long as it stayed ERCO the ser # were sequential but that is just a guess. BTW the -C stands for Continental engine.
The first production version of the 415-C NC15692 Ser#1 is at the Smithsonian. It was Manufactured in October of 1939. There were 121 production prewar 415-C produced until January of 1941. Production was stopped due to unavailability of Aluminum-Alloy sheet cause by the increase in priority of military production preparing for war and supporting Britain with lend-lease aircraft.
In October of 1945 production resumed.
Info from Wikipedia below: I hope this helps.
415-C Ercoupe First variant to enter large-scale production. Prewar 415-C Ercoupes were powered by 65 hp (48 kW) Continental A65-8 engines, while postwar Ercoupes were powered by 75 hp (56 kW) Continental C75-12 engines. Maximum gross weight was 1,260 lb (570 kg). 4,520 total built; 112 pre-war and 4,408 post-war.
415-D Ercoupe Same As 415-C but with fuel capacity increased by 1 US gal (3.8 L) and a modified up-elevator limit. Gross weight was also increased to 1,400 lb (640 kg). 77 built. One 415-D was modified under a Supplemental Type Certificate to fit a 108 hp (81 kW) Lycoming O-235-C2C powerplant.
ERCO 415-CD Ercoupe 415-CD Ercoupe was same as 415-D but with a revised elevator limit as well as a modified nose gear and ventilation system. Gross weight was reduced back to 1,260 lb (570 kg). 275 built.
415-E Ercoupe was the same as 415-D but powered by an 85 hp (63 kW) Continental C85-12 or C85-12F engine, introduced the split elevator with 20° of up-elevator travel. Gross weight was once again increased to 1,400 lb (640 kg). 139 built.
415-F Ercoupe was the same as the 415-D but powered by a 90 hp (67 kW) Continental C90 engine.
415-G Club-Air was the same as a 415-E but with a rear Kiddy-Seat and a modified windscreen.
415-H Club-Air was the same as the 415-G but powered by a 75 hp (56 kW) Continental C75 engines. A total of 70 415-G and 415-H aircraft were built.
Robert Burdett 415-C N99369
The first production version of the 415-C NC15692 Ser#1 is at the Smithsonian. It was Manufactured in October of 1939. There were 121 production prewar 415-C produced until January of 1941. Production was stopped due to unavailability of Aluminum-Alloy sheet cause by the increase in priority of military production preparing for war and supporting Britain with lend-lease aircraft.
In October of 1945 production resumed.
Info from Wikipedia below: I hope this helps.
415-C Ercoupe First variant to enter large-scale production. Prewar 415-C Ercoupes were powered by 65 hp (48 kW) Continental A65-8 engines, while postwar Ercoupes were powered by 75 hp (56 kW) Continental C75-12 engines. Maximum gross weight was 1,260 lb (570 kg). 4,520 total built; 112 pre-war and 4,408 post-war.
415-D Ercoupe Same As 415-C but with fuel capacity increased by 1 US gal (3.8 L) and a modified up-elevator limit. Gross weight was also increased to 1,400 lb (640 kg). 77 built. One 415-D was modified under a Supplemental Type Certificate to fit a 108 hp (81 kW) Lycoming O-235-C2C powerplant.
ERCO 415-CD Ercoupe 415-CD Ercoupe was same as 415-D but with a revised elevator limit as well as a modified nose gear and ventilation system. Gross weight was reduced back to 1,260 lb (570 kg). 275 built.
415-E Ercoupe was the same as 415-D but powered by an 85 hp (63 kW) Continental C85-12 or C85-12F engine, introduced the split elevator with 20° of up-elevator travel. Gross weight was once again increased to 1,400 lb (640 kg). 139 built.
415-F Ercoupe was the same as the 415-D but powered by a 90 hp (67 kW) Continental C90 engine.
415-G Club-Air was the same as a 415-E but with a rear Kiddy-Seat and a modified windscreen.
415-H Club-Air was the same as the 415-G but powered by a 75 hp (56 kW) Continental C75 engines. A total of 70 415-G and 415-H aircraft were built.
Robert Burdett 415-C N99369
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14 Aug 2024 23:24 - 14 Aug 2024 23:31 #11
by Warren Hampton
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Before 813 they were welded steel on the front of the Spar. then Cast Alum from 813 up mounted on rear of Spar. while I am here Forney F1 was the first large rear Windows's Es had flat windshields so I think Forney's were the first bubble also. Some Forney's come with bucket seats later on. Also Forney had fold down seat backs no idea when this all Happened.C90's started with Forney.
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14 Aug 2024 19:22 #12
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When did the MLG move to the other side of the spar? I forget which side it’s on now. When did the tanks become aluminum?
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